Gary Marcus

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9/28/2024, 9:38:21 PM
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John Berry (aniccia.bsky.social)
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@GaryMarcus @Linda__Stevens As bad and dangerous to the level of fatalities as Tesla FSD overhype has been, it is not a systemic risk to the transportation system as it would be if they were all Waymo's current gen system.
John Berry (aniccia.bsky.social)
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@GaryMarcus @Linda__Stevens Waymo's robots can't even handle traffic lights being out without remote assistance. Many examples from this month.

>million people and their traffic lights lost power in the last major SF Bay area quake, 1989 Loma Prieta. What's Waymo's earthquake plan?

Dangerously overhyped.
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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@aniccia @Linda__Stevens Yeah if they can’t eventually cut the cord that’s a serious problem. And it’s not at all clear they can.
John Berry (aniccia.bsky.social)
@aniccia
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@GaryMarcus @Linda__Stevens "no way" issues:

- inadequate remote situational awareness, ie Zoox & Waymo examples

- telecomm infra telops requires is not built for lifesafety operation, esp at Waymo's hoped for scale and geo, eg:
John Berry (aniccia.bsky.social)
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A large earthquake is a 'when not if' Bay Area scenario, for which USGS estimates cell networks will suffer >90% failure and take days to recover.

Thousands of robocars could simultaneously be stuck in traffic lanes impeding first responders for hours if not days.
Gary Marcus
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@aniccia @Linda__Stevens Can you spell out the logic of “no way to make it safe”?
John Berry (aniccia.bsky.social)
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@Linda__Stevens @GaryMarcus And there is no way to make this safe for public roads, as has been clear from videos of it in use for years, eg from Zoox:

The statement engages in a substantive discussion about the potential risks and challenges associated with the deployment of autonomous vehicles, specifically Tesla and Waymo. It raises concerns about the scalability and reliability of these technologies, particularly in emergency situations such as natural disasters. The tone is cautionary and aims to highlight the potential dangers of over-reliance on current autonomous vehicle systems.

  1. Principle 1:
    I will strive to do no harm with my words and actions.
    The statement strives to do no harm by warning about potential dangers associated with autonomous vehicles, thus promoting safety. [+2]
  2. Principle 2:
    I will respect the privacy and dignity of others and will not engage in cyberbullying, harassment, or hate speech.
    The statement respects the privacy and dignity of others, focusing on the technology rather than individuals or companies in a derogatory manner. [+2]
  3. Principle 3:
    I will use my words and actions to promote understanding, empathy, and compassion.
    The statement promotes understanding and empathy by discussing the potential risks and encouraging a cautious approach to the deployment of autonomous vehicles. [+2]
  4. Principle 4:
    I will engage in constructive criticism and dialogue with those in disagreement and will not engage in personal attacks or ad hominem arguments.
    The statement engages in constructive criticism by providing specific examples and logical arguments to support its concerns, rather than resorting to personal attacks. [+2]
  5. Principle 6:
    I will use my influence for the betterment of society.
    The statement uses its platform to raise awareness about a public safety issue, contributing to the betterment of society by encouraging informed decision-making. [+2]