Gary Marcus

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10/5/2024, 10:29:53 PM
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Dave Craige
@davecraige
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@GaryMarcus @Tanino82 I shared some data.

Feel free to share your data.

You are just coming across as overly pessimistic imo. Give their teams kore time to improve self driving.
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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359d
@davecraige @Tanino82 the bottom line there is actually about right. you are just so off on this i am not going to waste further breath. do some reading on intervention rates.
Dave Craige
@davecraige
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359d
@Tanino82 @GaryMarcus some data from Perplexity is here
Ninotan
@Tanino82
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359d
@GaryMarcus @davecraige I agree with you but to be fair we can't honestly use the hypothesis that each self driving disengagement every 13mi (or 100 for that matter) leads inexorably to a fatal accident.

Still if it was even just 1/10 we're still talking orders of magnitude short.
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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@davecraige Waymo was doing that 8-10 years ago. It’s not at all impressive. Humans drive on average over 140 million miles between fatal accidents. It is many many orders of magnitude short.
Dave Craige
@davecraige
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359d
@GaryMarcus Driving by themselves for 13 miles without a human intervention is impressive.

And it is likely to get better and better over the next few years.

What exactly can’t they do?

The statement 'read some literature and come back' is dismissive and lacks constructive engagement. It does not contribute to a productive dialogue and can be perceived as condescending.

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