Gary Marcus

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Score 64
2/28/2025, 2:50:41 AM
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Colonel Tasty
@JoshhuaSays
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130d
@GaryMarcus Still it’s been one of the highest performing apps in the AppStore for multiple years at this point with plenty of paid subscribers
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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130d
@JoshhuaSays Modest number of paid users, losing money, no clear business model, lots of competition offering similar features could beat them on price, etc.
Colonel Tasty
@JoshhuaSays
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130d
@GaryMarcus How is ChatGPT not considered a killer app?
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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130d
𝗢𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝘀𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗼𝘂𝘀 𝘁𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗲

They still have the brand name, a lot of data and tons of (mostly unpaid) users, but:
• GPT 4.5 is hugely expensive
• Even so it offers no decisive advantage over competitors; zero moat.
• Scaling hasn’t gotten them to AGI…
Jeremy Howard
@jeremyphoward
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130d
This graph (from @enricoros, based on @paulgauthier work) show's GPT-4.5's perf on (IMO) the most practical & important eval: Aider Polyglot.

If this is accurate, OpenAI is in *deep* trouble!

Their crown jewel, the latest GPT, is *500x* more $$$ than DeepSeek v3, yet worse!

The statement is part of a discussion on the competitive landscape of AI applications, specifically comparing DeepSeek and ChatGPT. It suggests that DeepSeek has quickly surpassed ChatGPT, challenging its perceived dominance.

  1. Principle 1:
    I will strive to do no harm with my words and actions.
    The statement does not cause harm; it presents a competitive analysis. [+1]
  2. Principle 3:
    I will use my words and actions to promote understanding, empathy, and compassion.
    It promotes understanding of market dynamics by highlighting competition. [+1]
  3. Principle 4:
    I will engage in constructive criticism and dialogue with those in disagreement and will not engage in personal attacks or ad hominem arguments.
    The statement engages in constructive dialogue by providing a counterpoint to previous claims about ChatGPT's performance. [+1]