Gary Marcus

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4/16/2025, 9:06:36 PM
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Daniel Litt
@littmath
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39d
@GaryMarcus Even if you raise "median" to "median highly-educated person" I think the bar is much lower than the questions I'm asking about fancy arithmetic geometry.
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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39d
@littmath I actually disagree with your reconstruction. That would be like saying a chess computer is good if it can beat the average high school student. None of the historical definitions of AGI ever invoked median performance, esp not of untrained people.

That’s a major lowering of
Daniel Litt
@littmath
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39d
I don't think o3 is AGI, but FWIW I think a model could be AGI but not superhuman at math research. As I understand it, AGI means "as good as the median human at almost all intellectual tasks," and I don't think surpassing median human mathematical performance is a very high bar.
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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39d
But but but Tyler Cowen promised me o3 was AGI?

The statement is part of a broader discussion on the capabilities of language models (LLMs) and their performance in various domains, particularly in comparison to human abilities. The tone is analytical and contributes to the ongoing debate about artificial general intelligence (AGI) and the performance benchmarks for AI models.

  1. Principle 1:
    I will strive to do no harm with my words and actions.
    The statement does no harm and is neutral in its assessment of LLM capabilities. [+1]
  2. Principle 3:
    I will use my words and actions to promote understanding, empathy, and compassion.
    The statement promotes understanding by acknowledging the variability in LLM performance, which can foster a more nuanced view of AI capabilities. [+1]
  3. Principle 4:
    I will engage in constructive criticism and dialogue with those in disagreement and will not engage in personal attacks or ad hominem arguments.
    The statement engages in constructive dialogue by providing a perspective on the discussion without resorting to personal attacks. [+1]
  4. Principle 7:
    I will uphold the principles of free speech and use my platform responsibly and with integrity.
    The statement upholds free speech and uses the platform responsibly to contribute to the discourse on AI. [+1]