Gary Marcus

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4/17/2025, 2:29:38 AM
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Liron Shapira
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@GaryMarcus @rao2z How big does the externally-supplied goal have to be before the sub goals are sufficiently independent/agentic for you? E.g. if the goal is beat Elon to Mars and the AI doesn’t require any more instructions for 5 years and succeeds, that’s still not agentic?
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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@liron @rao2z Those are orthogonal dimensions. Following instructions vs coming up with its own strategic goals independent of instructions.
Liron Shapira
@liron
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@GaryMarcus @rao2z If it’s executing a sufficiently big plan competently, without human intervention, is there a particular point when it’s acting independently? Seems like a continuum.
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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@liron That sounds like planning, which as @rao2z will tell you, is still inadequate, rather than a capacity to act independently, which IMHO could be more concerning.
Liron Shapira
@liron
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@GaryMarcus In their demo, it's chaining and executing more software actions together than before, toward a goal in the query
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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@liron Sorry, but I still don’t see it. Under what definition of agency?

The statement is part of a technical discussion about AI agency and autonomy, engaging with public concerns about AI capabilities and independence. The tone is analytical and seeks to clarify the concept of agency in AI systems.

  1. Principle 1:
    I will strive to do no harm with my words and actions.
    The statement does no harm as it is part of a technical discussion without any harmful language or implications. [+1]
  2. Principle 3:
    I will use my words and actions to promote understanding, empathy, and compassion.
    The statement promotes understanding by engaging in a nuanced discussion about AI agency, contributing to a deeper comprehension of the topic. [+2]
  3. Principle 4:
    I will engage in constructive criticism and dialogue with those in disagreement and will not engage in personal attacks or ad hominem arguments.
    The statement engages in constructive dialogue, responding to previous points without personal attacks or ad hominem arguments. [+2]
  4. Principle 7:
    I will uphold the principles of free speech and use my platform responsibly and with integrity.
    The statement upholds free speech principles by responsibly discussing a complex topic in AI, contributing to public discourse with integrity. [+1]