Gary Marcus

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Score 127

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@shinboson @rao2z also i didn’t say it couldn’t be done, and i don’t know what you did.

you twist a lot of words, and state things in the most confrontational way possible.

i am losing patience.

6/8/2025, 1:47:45 PM

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𝞍 Shin Megami Boson 𝞍

@shinboson

40d

@GaryMarcus @rao2z Gary I did implement it. See the link. I implemented it 48 minutes after you said it couldn’t be done.

Gary Marcus

@GaryMarcus

41d

@shinboson It’s not a trivial test; it’s failure modes are not in fact same as people (e.g. a bright teenager can easily learn to do 8 discs), and if you can trviially implement with a scratchpad, you should do so and demonstrate it. you should also read the related work by @rao2z that i

𝞍 Shin Megami Boson 𝞍

@shinboson

41d

@GaryMarcus 1) what this paper evaluates is very specifically whether LLMs are able to perfectly *execute* a formal algorithm without any sort of scratchpad or tooling like symbolic reasoning

2) this paper determines that LLMs are bad at this, which is a trivial result and also so are we

Gary Marcus

@GaryMarcus

41d

See you later, LLM’s?

Weekend long read on how the new Apple paper spells trouble, though not quite the end:

[The link you need to type is in bottom left of the image, because Elon]

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