Gary Marcus

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7/22/2025, 3:35:46 AM
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Boaz Barak
@boazbaraktcs
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@GaryMarcus I believe we are seeing great progress and will continue to get more. If you want to call tool-using LLMs "neurosymbolic" and declare victory that's fine with me.
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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53d
@boazbaraktcs Sure, but the idea that I said “zero progress” is still a strawman. (I only mentioned benchmarks because you did.)

Please go back and read what I actually said “deep learning is hitting a wall”; the problems I raised there remain problems, and the primary technique i pointed
Boaz Barak
@boazbaraktcs
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53d
@GaryMarcus The benchmark thing is a strawman, I don't really care about GPQA. The fact that you can ask o3 to go search up the numbers, draw the images, explain its work, shows how much of a step change it is from 4o. (And models are getting better all the time- ChatGPT Agent just came
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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53d
@boazbaraktcs 1. I plotted some progress, not none. So you’re post is strawman that doesn’t correctly capture what I plotted. (Of course what I plotted was not to be taken literally. Sorry if that was not clear.)

2. We all know there has been a LOT of focus on benchmarks and virtually no
Boaz Barak
@boazbaraktcs
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53d
Yes we really have made no progress
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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53d
GPT-5: Last Year’s Dreams vs This Year’s Reality

The statement and linked content engage in a discussion about the progress and evaluation of AI models, specifically focusing on neurosymbolic AI and its implications. The conversation involves a debate on the interpretation of AI benchmarks and progress, with references to specific models and their performance. The tone is analytical and aims to clarify misunderstandings in the discourse.

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