Gary Marcus

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11/16/2025, 7:53:12 PM
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Gary Marcus
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@peterwildeford which is what i publicly anticipated, hours before its release
Peter Wildeford🇺🇸🚀
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@GaryMarcus Kinda like the December release of o3. Was a very impressive demo, but ended up translating poorly to the real world relative to the high expectations.
Gary Marcus
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@peterwildeford yes, certainly possible. my bet it is that is both expensive and not reliable enough (in many cases) to justify the expense.
Peter Wildeford🇺🇸🚀
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@GaryMarcus Also it may just be extremely expensive to run
Gary Marcus
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People saying stuff like this “OpenAI's unreleased model that won gold on the IMO in July is clearly better than even the best publicly available model today (GPT-5 Pro)” are speculating and probably wrong.

my hunch is that the IMO model is limited either in its generality or
prinz
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I've noticed that a lot of people tend to assume that capabilities of consumer-grade AI models (like GPT-5) are the same as the true frontier of AI capabilities. This is a mistake.

For example, OpenAI's unreleased model that won gold on the IMO in July is clearly better than

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