Gary Marcus

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Score 83
9/14/2024, 11:45:02 PM
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Andy Even
@andyeven
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@GaryMarcus @elonmusk Yeah, I agree broadly. But isn't "crowdsourcing" the notion embedded in, "the answer for wrong speech is more speech"?

Given the history of so many "heresies" being the better "data fit" over time, embracing censorship seems an unhealthy and unwise path forward.
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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489d
@andyeven @elonmusk its shouldn’t be a job for an individual, no.

but research shows that crowdsourcing can actually be surprisingly good at this, especially if there are incentives. if we could just get the latency down and the coverage up, for Community Notes, we’d be doing much better than we…
Andy Even
@andyeven
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489d
@GaryMarcus @elonmusk Do you want Trump censoring you if you dispute his crowd sizes? Or do you just want Kamala censoring people who say "boys aren't girls" or whatever?

What are your ideas on using a partisan system to police truth, without the matter being corrupted by partisan "truths"?
Srs Qstn
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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489d
THIS, cc @elonmusk for your consideration:

“𝘐𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸 𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘤𝘺𝘣𝘦𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘴, 𝘢𝘣𝘴𝘰𝘭𝘶𝘵𝘦 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘰𝘮 𝘰𝘧 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘦𝘤𝘩 𝘪𝘴, 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘭, 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘰𝘯𝘰𝘮𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘮𝘪𝘻𝘦𝘥…
Noema Magazine
@NoemaMag
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491d
“It is untenable in nation-states legitimated by democratic accountability for unaccountable tech titans to determine the quality of public discourse.”

—Nathan Gardels

https://www.noemamag.com/the-con…

The statement by @andyeven constitutes public discourse as it engages in a substantive discussion about the mechanisms of crowdsourcing, responsibility, and incentives in the context of public speech and censorship. The conversation addresses societal issues related to free speech, censorship, and the role of technology in moderating public discourse.

  1. Principle 1:
    I will strive to do no harm with my words and actions.
    The statement does not appear to cause harm with words and actions. It is a reasoned argument about the need for responsibility and incentives in crowdsourcing, which is a neutral and constructive contribution to the discussion. [+1]
  2. Principle 2:
    I will respect the privacy and dignity of others and will not engage in cyberbullying, harassment, or hate speech.
    The statement respects the privacy and dignity of others. It does not engage in cyberbullying, harassment, or hate speech. [+1]
  3. Principle 3:
    I will use my words and actions to promote understanding, empathy, and compassion.
    The statement promotes understanding by referencing relevant research (David Rand’s research at MIT) and suggesting that responsibility and incentives are important for effective crowdsourcing. [+1]
  4. Principle 4:
    I will engage in constructive criticism and dialogue with those in disagreement and will not engage in personal attacks or ad hominem arguments.
    The statement engages in constructive dialogue by responding to a previous comment with a reasoned argument. It does not engage in personal attacks or ad hominem arguments. [+1]
  5. Principle 7:
    I will uphold the principles of free speech and use my platform responsibly and with integrity.
    The statement upholds the principles of free speech and uses the platform responsibly by contributing to a meaningful discussion on public discourse and censorship. [+1]