Gary Marcus

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7/22/2025, 1:09:19 PM
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Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
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@AndrewLampinen Andrew, fascinating thread. Two questions,

1. Who has actually argued “Even now, (neuro)symbolic advocates often argue that pure symbol manipulation is the only "real" intelligence, and "messy" deep learning should just be an input to symbol manipulation”? I consider myself to
Andrew Lampinen
@AndrewLampinen
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In GOFAI, representations were discrete symbols, and reasoning was formal manipulation of them. Even now, (neuro)symbolic advocates often argue that pure symbol manipulation is the only "real" intelligence, and "messy" deep learning should just be an input to symbol manipulation.
Andrew Lampinen
@AndrewLampinen
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Why do I think that's important? Because it's part of a long-term shift in how AI approaches the role of symbols in reasoning and intelligence — a shift we've been focusing on for a while, that I think brings symbols in AI closer to their role in human intelligence.
Andrew Lampinen
@AndrewLampinen
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Our LM (and others) achieved gold-medal performance in the international Math Olympiad (). Importantly, unlike last year's silver, this system used natural language end-to-end, rather than relying on a verifiable formal language.
Demis Hassabis
@demishassabis
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Official results are in - Gemini achieved gold-medal level in the International Mathematical Olympiad! 🏆 An advanced version was able to solve 5 out of 6 problems. Incredible progress - huge congrats to @lmthang and the team! https://deepmind.google/discover…
Andrew Lampinen
@AndrewLampinen
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Quick thread on the recent IMO results and the relationship between symbol manipulation, reasoning, and intelligence in machines and humans:

The statement is part of a technical discussion on AI, symbol manipulation, and intelligence, engaging with public issues related to AI development and its implications. The tone is inquisitive, seeking clarification on a complex topic.

  1. Principle 3:
    I will use my words and actions to promote understanding, empathy, and compassion.
    The statement seeks understanding and clarification, which aligns with promoting understanding and empathy. It does not provide new insights but shows a willingness to engage constructively. [+1]
  2. Principle 4:
    I will engage in constructive criticism and dialogue with those in disagreement and will not engage in personal attacks or ad hominem arguments.
    The statement is a request for clarification and does not engage in personal attacks or ad hominem arguments, adhering to the principle of constructive dialogue. [+1]